Atlantean Hoard

Subject: 1972

Posted by Neil Rayner
Sunday, December 03, 2000 at 23:17:00

I believe that the 1972 photo is actually 1974/75 year - going by my haircut! Doesn't Roger Burns look like a big jessie (only joking Rog)?

Subject: 1972

Posted by Neil Rayner
Sunday, December 03, 2000 at 20:04:18

The photo gave me a good laugh - seeing all those innocent, and not so innocent, young faces from the past.


Posted by Genius Loci
Thursday, November 30, 2000 at 15:30:59

Take out your Civis Romanus! (Okay you can put them away again now).

Subject: french with tears

Posted by jean-luc godard
Thursday, November 30, 2000 at 14:23:28

I think I hear the word 'alphaville' in the second extract. Any reference to the film of the same name? Equally, I suppose it could be M Bertillon talking about the customs shed where he works (BTW, did it strike anyone else as odd that in three books of Francais D'Aujourdhui he only ever caught one smuggler and for that he was promoted?)

Subject: Teachers

Posted by Graham Spencer
Wednesday, November 29, 2000 at 18:22:57

Spot on Al, I remember the head through the window incident. Paul Ayers took loads of flak......he was off one day and "Stiff" said "is it not his turn to wear the shoes"......what a g*t!!!!!!. We were incredibly sad, I remember in FiFi's class doing "wagons hoah" as in the cowboy films and forming a circle with our desks!!!!!!!!


Subject: Crap teachers

Posted by Alan T
Wednesday, November 29, 2000 at 12:38:00

The one incident that sticks in my mind is when Paul Ayres was being forcibly ejected by Bobby Punten. The door failed to open properly, and a slap on the back of the head made poor Ayresy's head break a pane of glass, drenching him with blood. Stoker heard the commotion from the next room, and came to investigate. When asked what had happened, Ayresy replied "Mr. Punten put my head through the window sir."

Subject: Crap teachers

Posted by Paul
Wednesday, November 29, 2000 at 11:50:06

Fifi wasn't the only poor teacher we had, anyone remember Sid Lovejoy, the student teacher who's life we made hell? We would steal everything from his briefcase, throw it around the class and write on it in black marker pen, "SID" "SID and "SID". Sometimes we wrote "Sid" for a change. Poor soul. I can remember an English class in an upstairs classroom which just happened to be above the room below where Fifi was babysitting 30-odd animals. Keith Johnson took his shoe off and used the string from a blind to lower it down to Fifi's eye level. He'd stuck a sheet of paper on the shoe that said something like "Shut up Fifi". It did go quiet, then Fifi arrived upstairs to extract his revenge. Someone else once stole a shoe (was it Russell Thompson?) and threw it across the class room where it lodged half way through a window. For the supposed intelligentsia, we were pretty stupid most of the time.

Subject: The Mouse

Posted by Graham Spencer
Tuesday, November 28, 2000 at 19:34:23

THe story I heard .....honest and its true (allegedly) They were sharing the same digs, a mouse appeared (as they do).............Fifi jumped on the nearest chair......shouting its a mouse roger its a mouse aka Tom & Jerry. Or does anyone know different???

Subject: mouse and Stubbings

Posted by ian
Tuesday, November 28, 2000 at 18:54:47

What's the story about the mouse? BTW, Roger Stubbings is now (or at least he was last time I checked about 4 years ago) a methodist minister. I believe that Fifi became a junior school teacher.

Subject: Lasting Scars

Posted by Graham Spencer
Tuesday, November 28, 2000 at 17:00:32

Talking of lasting scars (only I was, but you get used to talking to yourself in the vastness of Canada)..............I have a lasting memory of Mr Faulkner (FiFi)and his Triumph Herald. Would you believe I suffered????? twice as a member of the BBGS Scout troop and also for French (PS did anyone actually pass French being "taught???" by him). For those in his class and the records I got a "U". Also was there any truth in the story of Mr Faulkner & Stubbings.....and the mouse !!!!!! "Its a mouse Roger, its a mouse".

Subject: Monkeys Paw

Posted by Graham Spencer
Tuesday, November 28, 2000 at 16:43:52

That will teach me to go on the sick...................I got the look a PART. See what you find out after all these years!!!!!!!!!!oh the memories and the lasting scars.

Subject: The Monkey's Paw

Posted by Alan Tomlinson
Tuesday, November 28, 2000 at 12:49:59

No Graham, it meant then what it does now, but by keeping you in the dark, we made sure we didn't get the part!

Subject: The Monkeys Paw

Posted by Graham Spencer
Monday, November 27, 2000 at 16:39:39

Further to some comments earlier on this amazing Thespian performance. Would you believe I was one of those STARS??????? I played "PUFF", honest it meant something different in those days!!!!!!!! Other amazing sights (if that is the word) for thespian performances, was a certain Mike Collins dressed as a woman and eating goldfish (or does my memory not serve me does numb the brain cells).

Subject: Greengate

Posted by A Dullard
Friday, November 24, 2000 at 20:35:55

One must assume that the special offers have ended......

Subject: School Photo 1972

Posted by Graham Spencer
Friday, November 24, 2000 at 18:42:50

Just found myself on part 4 of the above(No 381, 7.2), what a handsome sod I was????n't. I currently reside in Bedford, Nova Scotia, Canada. Hello to everyone that knows me. email


Posted by Ern
Friday, November 24, 2000 at 15:03:25

Looking back throughrecent post, I discover that I share a problem with Gowers - namely the inability to place apostrophes correctly. No matter how many times I ask my long suffering missus, I still can't get it right. Have we stumbled upon a hole in BBGS teaching techniques, or is it, as I suspect, mere stupidity on my part? Answers on a California state ballot paper to the usual address.


Posted by Deities-R-Us
Friday, November 24, 2000 at 14:31:49

Loose end? Try this
Grill me

Subject: Cargo Cults

Posted by LBJ
Friday, November 24, 2000 at 13:57:15

In parts of the South Pacific, Former American President Lyndon Johnson and Prince Philip are worshipped as gods. The people of New Hanover, Papua New Guinea were so impressed by Lyndon Johnson that they attempted to buy him. During the first PNG House of Assembly elections, they voted for the American President - after all, if Americans could have him, why couldn't they? When he refused to represent them, they established a fund to bring him out. Needless to say, the American president never did make it to New Hanover and eventually the Johnson cult died out. Meanwhile, the Yaohnanen people of Vanuatu are awaiting the arrival of Prince Phillip. They've chosen a home for him and several women have volunteered to be his wife. Still no word on what the Queen thinks of this or whether the Prince plans to spend his royal retirement in Paradise as a god. Both the Lyndon Johnson and Prince Phillip movements are what academics call cargo cults. These cults developed with the arrival of Europeans in the South Pacific. It was thought that the whites had somehow acquired their wealth from a spirit world. How, then, could South Sea Islanders obtain such goods or cargo? Cargo cults leaders believed that the spirits of their ancestors would return to them with supplies of modern goods. This, they argued, would begin a golden age free from poverty and European dominance. The first cargo cults were in Dutch New Guinea in 1867 and British New Guinea in 1893. Some cargo cult leaders were early nationalists and their groups became notable political movements. Today, cargo cultism is scarce. One of the few remaining cults is the John Frum Movement on Tanna in Vanuatu. And, of course, the Yaohnanens are still waiting for their prince... -

Subject: Deification

Posted by Paul
Friday, November 24, 2000 at 10:32:48

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Ern and Pete already have mythical status? Half-way to god-head already! There's a real tribe of South Pacific islanders who worship Prince Philip as a god (no, not the webmaster, the real Prince). How this happened, God, or maybe Ern, knows. On a more cheerful note, what would Barrovians like to broadcast to the heavens with which to impress alien cultures? A debate on which is the best chippy? A picture of Tesco's? An image of a pint of Trophy and a packet of toasted pig skins?

Subject: Barrovians on TV

Posted by ciaran
Friday, November 24, 2000 at 08:50:14

There was hundreds of them on the TV Saturday night/ Sunday Morning, surely you all saw them? A 5 second slot on Match of the Day showing Orient's 2 goals to Knock AFC out of the FA Cup with the reporter managing to get in the highly original comment of the longest cul de sac in the UK. I thought that was East Anglia!! The Barrovian Males did not let the show down as the obligatory streaker strutted his stuff at half time pity the cameras didn't show that instead

Subject: Deification?

Posted by Alan T
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 21:55:09

Defecatiom more like Ern. If anyone actually cares about what they pour down their necks these days, the best alehouse this side of anywhere is the Prince of Walse at Foxfield, near Broughton. But a short train ride from our lovely home town, and well worth a trip when all you metropolitan types are home for the festive. Don't swoon at the cheap beer prices and moan about how dear it is where you live because we all know how much you all earn. You bastards.

Subject: Drinking Beer

Posted by Ern
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 19:13:23

I was drinking beer (well, Belgian lager) last night with Mr. Gibson. Today, I am a little under the weather. Mr. G insisted upon sleeping upon the couch in my living room, as he was unable to negotiate the climb to the attic room (a little tricky at the best of times). This morning, he scared my partner(up early to feed the chickens and believing herself alone) by snoring rather loudly! It's all go down here in the West country! Now, about this electro-magnetic radiation thingy - Key West radio in Watchet once did an hour long special featuring my good self and chums performing ropey covers of 'rock classics'. The transmission radius of the station is about 35 yards - am I still in with a chance of deification?


Posted by TransparentPseudonym
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 17:25:21

I like to imagine there are sufficient civilisations to ensure godhead for all of us - once the hurdle of electromagnetic access is overcome. I've no reason to suppose the Cult of the Beanhead will be any less worthy than the burgeoning Church of the Revealed Bill Sourbutts

Subject: Barrovians on TV

Posted by Carl Sagan
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 16:59:15

If Beanhead does appear on TV, then by Phil's earlier argument, it means that at some future time, strange alien beings will detect the transmission. Perhaps they will worship him as a god. What a cult that would be.


Posted by Margaret Mead
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 13:44:34

OK. How about a challenge. Who will be the first to spot Chris Blackhurst on TV during coverage of the recent Express Group takeover. The usual prize for vidcaps of the news or (possibly TV-X).
I haven't any recent Barrow drinking stories... the last time I was there the presence of an employee of Amnesty International prevented a trip to the livelier parts of town. Nigeria he could take but the local inhabitants were apparently too much.

Subject: apostrophes

Posted by Gowers
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 13:18:46

There are two schools of thought on the issue. The pedantic version is to add another 's' to keep uniformity, the other says don't bother because it supposedly looks clumsy. The trouble is that appealing to historical precedent doesn't help matters, because you can find examples of both usages. Equally, publishers differ in their usage (I've had apostrophes corrected one way by one publisher and in the other direction by another publisher). The best bet is probably the same as for split infinitives, ending sentences with prepositions and so forth: if in doubt, choose the most pedantic option, since that is likely to offend the least number of people. Now can someone please post a message about drinking in one of the dives of Barrow? Recent correspondence has been dangerously erudite.

Subject: Aether

Posted by PFW
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 13:11:22

Well I hope you realise that that a finite amount of the electromagnetic energy used to make that broadcast will have penetrated the atmosphere and is even now radiating in ever expanding circles...
'Tremendous. It makes a tremendous contribution to the riverscape.'
Long after the Earth has been struck by a large meteorite and rendered into a large scale mock-up of Wigton, your words could be still be being received by civilisations far more advanced than ours. Your book, on the other hand, will be irretrievably lost.


Posted by IT
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 12:58:45

Video'd (or should it be videoed?) but I wouldn't know how to digitize. I was the one in the curry-coloured mack who said 'Tremendous. It makes a tremendous contribution to the riverscape.' 'Riverscape' is the closest thing we get to a technical expression in the fuzzy discipline of landscape architecture.

Subject: A hour of it's its bits

Posted by The Hayes Office
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 12:34:00

IT - I hope you digitized this foray into TV and forward ASAP! I watched that sequence I'm sure but didn't twig the identity of the speaker. As for these tricky grammatical questions.. I refer to Bill Bryson's authoritative text for guidance. In reality I'm sure it's as relevant to the new generation of MTV scholars as the question of whether to doff one's cap, shake hands, or genuflect when approached by a roller-skating defrocked priest undergoing transgender treatment.


Posted by IT
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 12:15:45

I used to worry about this sort of thing before the Prozac. I also used to think Frances' and James' was right, but I'm now firmly of the opinion that they should be Frances's and James's. I can't remember which authority I looked at, but I did go into this when I was proof reading my book. Place names are no help. It's St. James's Park in London, but NUFC play at St. James and there is a St. James' Terrace in North Shields.

Subject: Bridges and Grammar

Posted by Paul
Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 10:47:44

Could we all have IT's autograph now he's famous. I've got a grammatical problem that maybe someone can help with. If something belongs to "Frances" for example, then its Frances' thing, isn't it, not Frances's. What about if it belonged to "Lex"? is it Lex' thing, or Lex's thing. Please help as I'm losing sleep over this.


Posted by IT
Wednesday, November 22, 2000 at 11:37:40

Ah.. Mr Baines has found the website! There must be enough of us up here for a NE ex-pats group. Sass is just about all I can handle these days afer my bibulous experiments in Newcastle and Glasgow. Incidentally did anyone catch my pithy soundbite about the new millenium bridge between Newcastle and Gateshead? It made the ITN news at 6 o' clock. Not fifteen minutes of fame, but about 5 seconds. Canny bridge like.

Subject: Drinkies

Posted by troll
Wednesday, November 22, 2000 at 09:54:01

I'm currently residing under the swing bridge.I'm game for a sarsaparilla.

Subject: 5.4 part 4 on the 72pic

Posted by David Baines
Tuesday, November 21, 2000 at 11:18:07

Oddly enough, I met Ian Thompson yesterday. We both live in Newcastle. Anyone else in these parts fancy a drink?

Subject: Data Collection

Posted by George Smiley
Tuesday, November 21, 2000 at 09:59:02

What you don't realise, chaps, is that the webmaster probably has all your IP addresses - be worried - be very worried!

Subject: silence

Posted by 3f
Tuesday, November 21, 2000 at 08:16:52

Sorry,I had the Lexus reposessed and the baillifs took my computer. I'll have to get the girls hustling a bit more effectively so I can buy myself a new gaff instead of conversing in my local cybercafe.

Subject: Re what did I say

Posted by A Dullard
Monday, November 20, 2000 at 19:44:59

I did hear that in response to the J D Wetherspoons "curry night" offer, the Greengate has started a pint and pork scratchings night, 1.20 buying you a pint of trophy and some assorted baked left over pig bits, plus the best in local mens conversation thrown in for free! Could explain the mass exodus from here.

Subject: what did I say I say!

Posted by Jeremy Spiffing
Monday, November 20, 2000 at 19:35:56

I do believe I got censored! Presumably so have lots of other chaps! Has our webmaster become corrupt? Is the Troll holding him to ransom? Are the teachers revolting? Sorry, more revolting than they used to be...haw haw! Jolly exciting stuff isn't it! I'd say we'd better use "famous five" code from now on!

Subject: What did I say?

Posted by Alan T
Monday, November 20, 2000 at 18:47:38

Has everyone except Mr. Benn gone home?

Subject: Patrick Ryder

Posted by Alan T
Wednesday, November 15, 2000 at 10:23:08

Food for thought Paul. I can torment him with this on Friday. Did he ever make Head Boy?

Subject: Patrick Ryder

Posted by Steve Pick
Wednesday, November 15, 2000 at 03:05:41

Paul, thanks. Just looked at the 1955 school photo and feel sure I can spot your dad. He is 12th from end on 2/3 back row, if I have got the right boy. Pete is just two rows below and slightly to the right. Have you seen that photo. I must make an effort to send it (them to Phil). I did start with the 1950 one but gave up due to crappy results. After they have been curled up for 50 years it is not easy to get a good scan. Maybe I can just do the ones of Pete and Patrick.

Subject: Who's My Father??

Posted by Paul
Tuesday, November 14, 2000 at 13:39:53

Mine, Patrick.

Subject: Miss Wells etc..

Posted by Alan T
Monday, November 13, 2000 at 17:48:58

Whose father?

Subject: Miss Wells

Posted by Steve Pick
Sunday, November 12, 2000 at 18:27:12

No,I don't have a head for heights. If I remember, and that is a stretch, the "court photographer", one Malcolm Standish, took the photo and they were popular. I kept this im my drawer of junk and thought it was a memorable incident.The other "hero" shall remain nameless by me, unless he wants to divulge his actions in the escapade. He was in the same form as Pete.Paul, I remember (I think) Pete had a brother one or two years younger than him. Can't remember his name but would that be your father?Steve

Subject: Miss Wells incident

Posted by Alan T
Friday, November 10, 2000 at 17:20:20

So does that make you the other one Steve? After 42 years we should be told.....

Subject: Miss Wells

Posted by Steve Pick
Friday, November 10, 2000 at 03:30:10

Yes, Pete was one of the two. I wasn't going to mention a name but if you insist as a family member.Please pass on my regards to him. He was a very bright boy and I remember him well. It is nice to know what he is up to now.If you can, let him have my e-mail trycom@altinet.netSteve

Subject: Miss Wells

Posted by Paul
Thursday, November 09, 2000 at 15:13:15

I believe that my uncle was partly responsible for the slur on Miss Wells - Peter Ryder, who left school in about 1958, went to Leeds, then Cambridge and is now Profesor of Metallurgy at Bremen University, Germany. The boy done good!


Posted by IT
Wednesday, November 08, 2000 at 08:56:38

Greetings to all the Macgregors! I knew Alan quite well. Let me have his e.mail if you've got it. There seems to be a strong Newcastle connection. Do you live in Jesmond by any chance?

Subject: Photo 7.7

Posted by Brian Macgregor
Tuesday, November 07, 2000 at 21:33:59

Brian Macgregor, Marketing Manager or Software Company in Newcastle. Younger brother of Alan Macgregor, Principal Psychologist, Kent County Council, and older brother of Ken Macgregor, Commercial Director of stationery co in Croydon.

Subject: photo

Posted by ian
Tuesday, November 07, 2000 at 11:10:20

Didn't someone on another occasion paint 'Miss Wells likes Guiness' on the roof? The joke in part is that Miss Wells is [I think she's still alive - can anyone enlighten us?] teetotal.

Subject: Whats all this then!!

Posted by Mike Hoggan
Monday, November 06, 2000 at 19:01:48

4.2 is brian macgregor (marketing something in Newcastle), 4.3 is phil boundy (Raf pilot when I last heard) , 4.3 is Graham Gawn (and he has - last seen on his way to the Conkle pub)

Subject: Rag Photo

Posted by PFW
Monday, November 06, 2000 at 15:19:14

I liked this picture from Steve Pick.. now that's what I call a stunt.Steve Pick ->This is about 1957/58. It is the girls school roof, as if you didn't know. I believe photo got in local rag, but Miss Wells was not amused. The two guys who did it had to pay to get it cleaned off. We thought it hilarious at the time. Don't know if it is quite amusing in the somber view of middle age.

Subject: Sneckmobile

Posted by IT
Monday, November 06, 2000 at 09:29:37

Sneck memorably drove 'a post van painted braan' (with traces of the red paint still showing through). During end of year festivities (sometime around the first Summer-of-Love) a group of prefects hoisted the van onto their shoulders and set off with it towards the 'Swamp'. Someone fron the stafroom, Stoker possibly, shouted 'Drop that car!' - which they dutifully did. It bounced. I had a lift in this van once. You could see the tarmac whistling past through the holes in the floor.

Subject: '62 BBGS Photo

Posted by Grim
Monday, November 06, 2000 at 04:25:08

It would be great if the '62 school photo could be set up like the '72 one so that names can be added (before alzheimers starts to take its toll!)Cheers

Subject: BBGS Wacky Races

Posted by Derek Walmsley
Saturday, November 04, 2000 at 19:36:17

I remember walking to school with Ian Millard and we had a daily Wacky Races competition. We had around 6 teachers apiece- the first car to pass us along West Avenue or the school drive scored 12 points, the second 11 and so forth. Would the first be Cash's big blue Ford, Jolly Jim Fryer's Triumph Herald, Wilf Kimber's Volkswagen Camper, Ma O' Neill's Reliant Robin, Shirley Eaton's MG Midget or the vehicles mentioned by 3F in the last note ? The simple pleasures of 1972!!

Subject: Silent cars

Posted by 3F
Saturday, November 04, 2000 at 09:50:49

These days,most cars are fairly free of internal and mechanical noise.Take myown Lexus for instance-astoundingly quiet.Back in the 60's however,things werequite different.The roads were full of rattling,snorting heaps-Sneck's Moggie1000-even Stoker's Cambridge was a primitive example of the horrible home product.Except of course for EE0 845F-the Austin/Morris 1800 with the specially built silent turbine.Even the colour(brown) was chosen to blend in withthe brick walls that were so common around the West avenue area.Many wasthe time when you would be up to no good on the way to or from school whenthe car would silently appear behind you and a snarling bald head would emergewith an invitation to visit the room next to clubfoot's office.

Subject: 1972 photo

Posted by Biobiz
Friday, November 03, 2000 at 02:24:47

Just a few more names to add:4.4 Les Routledge; 9.4 Mike Ward; 9.5 Eric Whitton; 9.8 Robin Spence.

Subject: Sprouts and chips

Posted by Alan Tomlinson
Wednesday, November 01, 2000 at 11:06:13

Typical of the Mail to miss a great local scoop! it wasn't even inside the paper. On the Holland's chippie trail, maybe it would please His Hairiness the Troll to know that the offending establishment is now converted to a dwelling?

Subject: That Large Sprout

Posted by Paul
Wednesday, November 01, 2000 at 09:49:29

According to the Independent's Captain Moonlight's vegetable Watch, a "1.5 lb brussels sprout, grown by Robin McNamara on his allotment in Barrow. Yes, that's right, Barrow is near Sellafield." Then he went on about eating chickens testicles in Taiwan. I suppose this is fame of a sort, but who is the mysterious Mr McNamara and why wasn't this on the front page of the local Rag?

Subject: chippies

Posted by Troll
Wednesday, November 01, 2000 at 09:21:36

Nothing to do with BBGS this but I can remember as a young troll,workingmy school holidays at a local grocery wholesaler,a pallet of rancid lardsweating away in the corner with a sticker on it-"sold.Mr Holland." Thisstuff had been off for weeks and was to be disposed of.Needless to say,The troll has never since frequented a certain Ainslie St chippy.

Subject: Sprouts

Posted by Alan Tomlinson
Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 14:17:28

Unfortunately we appear to have been deprived of photographic evidence to support the claim. Is the Independent sure it wasn't a Sellafield-mutated potato? Or even a baby?

Subject: Sprout

Posted by Paul
Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 12:06:36

Barrow was in the Independent yesterday! That's not a chippy, or a men's club - its a broadsheet newspaper. That's a paper that doesn't have pictures of bare-breasted pubescents on page 3. Apparently, some man in Barrow grew a Brussels Sprout that weighed one-and-a-half pounds. That's one, single sprout. It didn't say where he grew it, though, (his leg? his ear? his garden?). Was there a picture in the Evening Mail?

Subject: MATTIES

Posted by R FINK
Monday, October 30, 2000 at 19:12:22



Posted by Alan T
Monday, October 30, 2000 at 10:32:07

I heard that he BUILT a house from used dog-ends and coupons. Would coupons not be uncomfortable to sit on?

Subject: Aliens in the Ship

Posted by TROLL
Monday, October 30, 2000 at 08:46:07

Clever human disguises? How can a haircut like that be called clever?But hang on-maybe there is something in this.Perhaps the taller onewas not fully formed which would blow the javelin and polio theoriesright out of the water.Maybe the creators removed him from the spawningtank before the limb had fully formed.It would also explain how the short fat one could smoke so many fagsand still be alive-he is in fact an android.I once heard he furnished anentire house from the Embassy coupons.

Subject: The Greengate

Posted by X Man
Saturday, October 28, 2000 at 14:14:41

Toby Light's down tuppence this week.....dont get crushed in the rush.It is a little known fact that the Greengate is an alien mother ship that crash landed in the Cumbrian desert over 100 years ago and ever since has spawned Barrovian males from its loins. During its final catastrophic descent, an escape Probe was launched manned by a chosen few interlectual seers whose mission was to spread their infinite knowledge and wisdom. The Probe landed in Yarlside road and became aptly renamed the "ship". Local folklore has it that the Seers still reside there on most evenings, going quietly unnoticed in their clever human disguises.


Posted by A Dullard
Saturday, October 28, 2000 at 13:50:43

"I fink Matties is the best chippy in Barra".....discuss

Subject: Cranstone

Posted by The Troll
Saturday, October 28, 2000 at 11:06:14

Trousers eh? Shorts actually.All good clean fun?How quaint!


Posted by IT
Friday, October 27, 2000 at 12:08:14

Well I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with trousers. Martin Swarbrick, I seem to remember, used to get chased around the Music Room fairly regularly. All good clean fun. They wouldn't allow it nowadays!Pity really. He was a first rate choirmaster.

Subject: Not to be confused with JR impersonators

Posted by THE TROLL
Friday, October 27, 2000 at 10:31:23

Jock CranstoneNow there is a name to evoke vivid memories! Does anyone out there know whyhe resigned?A prize for the first correct answer.N.B.Graeme Johns is banned from answering as he knows the answer "first hand"haw haw"!P.s. the real troll has no knowledge of the prices in the Greengate.I am anon Barrow person these days.

Subject: St. James' Alumnii

Posted by Alan T
Saturday, October 21, 2000 at 10:14:59

Ah, Colin Jones, aka Head Cider-maker at Weston's, Much Marcle. What a great job, if only for your former school-mates to impress inebriates on underground stations. Good on yer Colin.

Subject: Still in Barrow

Posted by Derek Walmsley
Friday, October 20, 2000 at 18:36:54

Still in Barrow, Paul. Too attached to it! Nick Hooper was also in St. James' Junior School with me. He got the nickname "Dogfood" there (shortened to "Dog") around about the same time I was nicknamed "Sass". Both names stuck all the way through BBGS and beyond!! Other ex-St.James lads starting BBGS 1971 were David Tucker, Karl Dodd, Tim Gibbons and Ian Millard. The 1972 St. James-BBGS transfer list included Alan Tomlinson (regular visitor to this site!), Paul Beetham, Paul Ayres, Ian Vaughan, Philip Akred and Colin Jones.

Subject: The Age of Aquarius

Posted by PFW
Friday, October 20, 2000 at 16:44:09

Well yes.. I confess.. but what cured me was the time I accidentally went down to the scalp... Local children followed me whispering "he's had brain surgery".This incident coincided with a wedding I had to attend and... but that's another story.

Subject: Quiffs'n'stuff

Posted by paul
Friday, October 20, 2000 at 16:38:45

I had the most hideous haircut imaginable in the early 1970's. This had something to do with the fact that we had a family tradition of ripping hair out with an evil device consisting of a blunt razor blade held between two plastic combs. Anyone remember it? It would've been advertised in the News of the World amongst huge single slippers and incontinence pants. At regular intervals, newspaper was spread on the kitchen floor and hair was literally ripped out. The style was usually akin to teddy boy (my parents' joint period of influence) and would grow out as is evidenced in the film. I do remember PFW cutting his own hair once - with equally grim results. Its hard to see the back of one's head in a bathroom mirror, Phil. A word of defence for Dog - throwing the ball in that manner was more accurate - you could bounce it off the basketball ring and its trajectory would then be totally unpredictable. Hence people who followed you couldn't catch the tennis ball. It DOES look very girly though. Nice to hear from derek again - thought you'd emigrated! Does anyone else recall playing the ball-loop-catch game and being bombed by exploding plastic bags by the evil upper sixth? They were filled with the old town gas and an attached fuse lit. At some point between the upper storey and the ground they would explode.

Subject: Hairy 70s

Posted by PFW
Friday, October 20, 2000 at 15:01:20

Indeed.. retribution for all the hair we had in the 70s.Yeah I think your right.. Mark Thompson... didn't mean you Ian..The film was projected and videoed.. and then the video captured using an Iomega Buz video card. Probably worth videoing them at least as, if they are like mine, they will develop a bluish hue over time.Yes Alan... maybe Wilf has some pics.. but perhaps we will have to produce 7 days worth of jolly hockey sticks messages first in case he vets the site!p.s. did you know he was something of an expert with a soldering iron?

Subject: Girlie Action

Posted by ciaran
Friday, October 20, 2000 at 14:48:44

Surprisingly I think I actually understand the "monkey's arse" reference (earlier correspondance I believe)Wasn't it Mark Thompson? and maybe Neil Semple in the ball game.Did you notice the pathetic "girlie throwing action" of Nick Hooper.It looks like Colin Wheeler to me in the car park.

Subject: Monkey's arse my arse!

Posted by Alan T
Friday, October 20, 2000 at 12:58:10

Would it be the Monkey's Paw, an awful little drama that I remember only dimly? Which teachers do I need to tap up re more ahem material? Wilf would seem the obvious choice, if he actually kept anything that is...


Posted by IT
Friday, October 20, 2000 at 09:13:08

Phil,The 'Curse of the Monkey's Arse' reference is lost on me!What techology did you use to digitise the film. I've got a huge reel of family 8mm stuff I've been meaning to do something with for years. Nothing on BBGS unfortunately.

Subject: Stiff

Posted by PFW
Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 21:56:45

It was 0.75" precisely. He told me often enough.I don't have any more footage... at the time I didn't think there would be a demand. Maybe some more photos could be obtained through the good graces of Mr Tomlinson and his extensive connections (joints?)Ian Thompson features.. (in the new directors cut "The Curse of the Monkey's Arse").. the last images of prefect duties.. starring the elusive Jamie Hill... I reckon the ball game features not only Hooper but Livesey with flowing 70's locks, Mitchinson looking on with a more conservative short back and sides and tailored blazer, and possibly Dave Hill... I'll have to digitize it again.. .the tape copy is already 8 years old.

Subject: Old Film

Posted by Derek Walmsley
Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 20:31:10

Amazing archive material! Immediately recognised Ciaran and the others he mentioned- I would also say it's around 1973. I never knew we had the technology!Anyone recognise the master walking past the red car ?Have to dig out my old exercise books and re-acquaint myself with the Stiff Holmes rules for presenting CWK and HWK. How wide did the pencil margin have to be- 0.5".. 0.75" ????

Subject: ball games

Posted by ian
Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 19:30:03

Can anyone recall the rules for playing the 'hoop game'? Not that I've any intention of playing it again ...

Subject: haircuts

Posted by Ciaran
Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 17:21:05

Great movie clip phil, though I certainly don't remember it.What an angelic faced little cherub I was and I had a better haircut than Paul Ryder (just)Definitely earlier than 75 I'd say more 72/3.First Guy pictured is a fellow St Columbas old boy Tony Williamson then me and Paul, I think I also detected nick hooper playing ball.Any more in your archive??


Posted by Ern
Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 15:00:41

Er.....It wasn't me was Gibson.

Subject: Ball games

Posted by paul
Monday, October 16, 2000 at 15:38:24

The first person to drop the ball three times had to go around the corner and stand against the wall where the rest had a go at chucking the tennis ball hard as possible at their goolies. Barrovian "real tennis". Mac users can get "Quicktime!" instead of the windows media player if they really want to see very silly haircuts and daft ball games.

Subject: Zapruder

Posted by ian
Monday, October 16, 2000 at 15:10:43

Well, several hours of download time later, I finally have the film and the Windows Media Player. Well worth it - a work of seminal greatness, up there with Last Year in Marienbad and Citizen Kane. I'd forgotten all about that brain-fryingly tedious game of throwing a tennis ball against the basketball hoop.

Subject: MPG

Posted by PFW
Monday, October 16, 2000 at 13:27:34

Hi IanIt is an MPEG and should play with Windows Media Player...

For MACs.. I don't know!

Subject: movie

Posted by ian
Monday, October 16, 2000 at 13:15:15

Which programme plays this please?

Subject: Old Film

Posted by PFW
Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 17:16:50

Below a link to digitized super-8mm...
Interesting to see how many faces can be named.
Not in the class of Dave Tat the cinematography is definitely machine-gun style.
At 5MB+ I would advise LAN only ....
I think it's about 1975

Subject: the Greengate

Posted by Alan T
Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 16:01:15

Ah, that last bastion of male exclusivity, the Greengate Club. How do they get away with it in these enlightened times?

Subject: 2 Questions

Posted by Paul
Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 14:07:56

1 - How many Barrovians can the Greengate accommodate, even if Trophy (a Barrovian term for horses' p*ss) was 2p per pint? and 2 - How could that middle footballer possibly play in those glasses - did he have to take them off and play blind or did all balls have bells in them in those days?

Subject: Gondoliers

Posted by Ern
Friday, October 13, 2000 at 09:58:07

Phil, Thanks for sending the Evening Mails to my hotel in Venice. Unfortunately, I left before they arrived! Still, you can comfort yourself with a vision of a very bemused gondolier.

Subject: Old Pics

Posted by PFW
Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 09:52:43

A couple of additional old pics, culled from the Evening Mail
I guess of interest primarily to those for whom the Mail is not the daily window on the world
It's that Steve Pick again... also an early image of Ray Lomas.. clearly a lot of Brylcreem in evidence.



Posted by IT
Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 09:23:44

It's good to know that even when most Barrovians are filling sacks full of straw for their winter hibernation, the Troll is still alert and active beneath his bridge, just waiting to pop out and shake a stick at the unwary. Any relation to J.R.R.Trollkien?

Subject: Where have they gone

Posted by J R Troll
Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 08:08:40

I believe two things have contributed to the exodus of Barrovians:-1) All the shite that's written here2) The Greengate knocking 2p a pint off Trophy

Subject: Stunned

Posted by PFW
Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 14:12:32

The launch has probably stunned a number of us.It was quite something.. "Three cheers for Wave Knight and Lady Guthrie!"It was like watching some archive material... and the microphone picked up his watery rendition of the national anthem in merciless hi-fi.. wonderful.


Posted by
Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 13:52:40

Where have all the Barrovians gone?

Subject: Whicker Island

Posted by PFW
Thursday, October 05, 2000 at 17:24:20

Gateshead and now Venice......

Subject: stinky canals

Posted by Ronnie Titian
Thursday, October 05, 2000 at 15:34:13

Well, 3:30 p.m. only another hour and it's off to Venice with the memsahib. And you can keep yer NT4.


Posted by IT
Wednesday, October 04, 2000 at 08:49:39

I don't have the exact quotation, but Priestley also said something like 'Gateshead appears to have been designed by an enemy of the human race'. Not much comfort there for the local planning department.Actually Barrow scores over Gateshead in several ways - it is a town in its own right, not cowering in the shadow of a bigger city (unless you count Ulverston), it has a much more scenic location, and bits of it (Abbey Road, Duke St. and the Cemetery Hill) were laid out with some idea of civic pride. Having said that, Gateshead has been trying very hard to shake off its bad image, with some success. The Angel, the Baltic, the new concert hall.. even the Metro Centre.. and a few years ago the International Stadium, were all attempts to get one over on Newcastle, but they have had some success in establishing Gateshead as a place in its own right.

Subject: J.B. Priestley Etc..

Posted by Alan T
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 20:48:28

His English Journey is incredible in echoing so much the privations and crappiness of the modern England that I heartily commend it to all readers of this page. He didn't have much to say in the way of praise for the whole North East, what a shame that he missed Barrow too. In the thirties it must have been lovely. Trams, smoke, people holding down paying jobs for ten minutes at a stretch - no time to ponder cylinders or Willie Horne statues. Halcyon days.

Subject: J.B. Priestley Etc..

Posted by Alan T
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 20:48:02

His English Journey is incredible in echoing so much privations and crappiness of the modern England that I heartily commend it to all readers of this page. He didn't have much to say in the way of praise for the whole North East, what a shame that he missed Barrow too. In the thirties it must have been lovely. Trams, smoke, people holding down paying jobs for ten minutes at a stretch - no time to ponder cylinders or Willie Horne statues. Halcyon days.


Posted by IT
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 17:11:29

Gateshead - a dirty back lane leading to Newcastle, someone (possibly J.B. Priestley) once said.A confession - I used to work for Gateshead MBC, and despite all my best efforts, I couldn't turn it into Barcelona.

Subject: Planes and Boats and Trains

Posted by Paul
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 14:09:11

Ian, how can Gateshead sell itself as "interesting" - the only interesting bit of Gateshead is the road out of it, it's like Barrow in that respect? Sculpture wise, I really liked Ern's suggestion of a huge bottle of "Clan Dew" for the roundabout. Or what was that 99p for two litres cack we used to drink, Don Cortex or something. Its done my cortex in alright.

Subject: Trains and Angels

Posted by Ciaran
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 13:36:00

Well, I can see that people could grow not to hate the sight of a train or an angel but personally I still can't see the artistic merit in a metal cylinder.Maybe I should have listened to Shirley Eaton after all and not give up art in the second years.With the Traffic management we have in the town, I think we'll probably get a Bus Stop on the roundabout.Alternatively I think we should go with the disco Kid idea using one of those rotating advertising hoardings to display his "moves" for generations to come.Paul, Next time your home, do not p*** in the Ramsden Square toilets, It's now a taxi firms office.


Posted by IT
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 11:07:59

The Angel of the North is a very interesting case. Of course, if it had been Southampton that had invited Gormley to make it, I am sure he would have been happy to have called it the Angel of the South. And it is true that there was a lot of local opposition, much of it orchestrated by the Gateshead Post, which found a picture of a Luftewaffe statuette which looked very similar. People thought it was a 'waste of public money' (even though it was not funded from council tax and received a lot of sponsorship). Others objected that it would cause pile ups on the A1 (it hasn't - cars may even slow down to get a bettewr look) and - horror of horrors - that it might disrupt TV reception.Now, of course, it is a very different story. The locals call the Angel 'Kevin', presumably linking it with Saint Kevin Keegan, saviour of the North. A group of Magpie fans used catapults and string to drape the Angel with a giant Shearer shirt, and since that day everyone here seems to love it. The Angel is on postcards, jig-saw puzzles, calenders, key fobs, tea towels etc etc. Local artists produce bad watercolours of it and try to sell them at craft fairs. The Angel has also helped Gateshead to sell itself internationally as an interesting place to visit/live/invest. The Arts Council is backing the conversion of an old flour mill into what will become the Baltic, a contemporary artspace which critics are mentioning in the same breath as the Tate Modern.

Subject: That's ART that is!

Posted by Paul
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 10:49:30

In Gateshead they built a cast-iron angel that the locals hated. In Darlington they built a train out of bricks that the locals hated. Now both sculptures are revered nationally!! What! You haven't heard of them? I think that a suitable sculpture for Hollywwod Park might be a plastic tesco's bag, at several hundred times life size, or even the Ramsden Square toilet block - first stop on the way home from the Ambrose - Oh what small bladders we had in those days, or was it the copious amounts of alcohol we drank, eh, Jeremy, Haw Haw! Alternatively, they could copy the Gateshead angel and insert it into the ground upside down. Or would it be too reactionary to plant some trees??? Do they still grow in Barrow?


Posted by Alan T
Monday, October 02, 2000 at 13:33:40

Mad Charlie? The short stout lad prone to wearing shorts and raincoat combos?Whatever next, the Disco Kid on the top of the Town Hall?

Subject: sculpture

Posted by troll
Monday, October 02, 2000 at 10:37:42

Well,I'm back from me hols in Newcastle where they used to launch ships.Anyway,about this sculpture debate.How about an animatronic 2 times scaleMad Charlie?He could shout "allright mate" at passers by and maybe even followthe odd lucky one onto a bus.Or even spray the real mad charlie gold or silver?He would probably be happier on a plinth under Salthouse bridge though.

Subject: Abstract

Posted by PFW
Monday, October 02, 2000 at 10:08:54

My vote is for a representation of the structure of urea.
If nothing else the town has converted more money into this compound than any other settlement in the UK.That said.. I was little surprised to see the national news studiously ignoring the launch. It may not be a plane crash but it is always quite a spectacle. I guess the editors thought it did not fit with their vision of the UK economy.. in which heavy manufacturing does not feature.

Subject: I don't know much about art but....

Posted by Melvyn
Monday, October 02, 2000 at 09:24:21

Yeah well the USSR tried that "bozo on a tractor" approach to art. Whoever said art could be done by committee? If that were the case then ballet would be outlawed by now and all divas put on a strict diet. The Last Night at the Proms would feature a mass kazoo band with majorettes. Of course, what public money is spent on is a question of choice. Maybe motivated person(s) to make something themselves. Next to the distasteful Hollywood Park hoardings I doubt anything would look good.


Posted by IT
Monday, October 02, 2000 at 09:10:51

My elderly aunt was visiting us in Newcastle this weekend and was characteristically indignant about the proposal to put an ABSTRACT sculpture on the roundabout. Why couldn't the good people of Barrow have a nice figurative statue of noble riveters in stead. Something similar happened a couple of years ago in Whitehaven when the citizenry chucked out a proposal for a sculpture by ta world-famous Catalonian sculptor called Chillida. West Cumbria doesn't seem quite ready for the cultural mainstream yet!

Subject: Troll

Posted by Bridge Inspector
Sunday, October 01, 2000 at 01:56:58

It's just NOT the same since the troll went into exile.....please come back

Subject: Launch

Posted by Jeremy Spiffing
Sunday, October 01, 2000 at 01:54:06

Thank god it's over I say, now we can all get back to our exciting lives .......I say! such a hoot about the proposed monument on the roundabout at Hollywood park, our elected council wanted to erect a symbolic funnel or sail or something boringly maritime, but fortunately locals prevented such a blot on the landscape - perhaps a 1:500 scale model of the slagbank would meet with approval as a more fitting cultural reminder of our past....haw haw or would that need a motorway sized roundabout to accomodate it? has haw guffaw..

Subject: Launch

Posted by PFW
Friday, September 29, 2000 at 11:51:51

So.. here we go again...

Subject: The Exciting Launch

Posted by Paul
Thursday, September 28, 2000 at 18:59:13

Why not check out where you can watch paint dry. Much better than the launch - more movement.

Subject: Front Page

Posted by Alan T
Thursday, September 28, 2000 at 16:44:53

Has anyone noticed the resemblance between the bewhiskered gentleman on the front page (Is it Ramsden or Cavendish?)to the late Larry Grayson?

Subject: The hold

Posted by Ciaran
Thursday, September 28, 2000 at 15:44:30

Apparently it's not without precedent to name the ship and then not launch it.It was a huge anticlimax. For the first time ever they relayed the launch ceremony over loudspeakers to Walney, the vicar said the prayers, sung hymns then just before the I name this ship bit some guy, who couldn't even pronounce Furness, came on and said it was cancelled due to H&S considerations.Any local could have told them the wind wouldn't stop just before the launch but I guess some idiot thought it might!!May happen tomorrow at 12. 40 .I think it may have been seagull shit on the slipway!!

Subject: The Launch

Posted by PFW
Thursday, September 28, 2000 at 14:16:06

Oh dear... The thing didn't move...BAE then announced that it was delayed due to wind!If BAE were going to cancel due to wind .. wouldn't they have done it before the old dear broke the champagne?I don't think anticlimax quite covers such an event.What I want to know is.. how far did it get? and can it still be restrained?Or will it decide to carry on at low tide?Who is responsible for this?Or was it "leaves on the slipway"?


Posted by IT
Thursday, September 28, 2000 at 09:09:27

Paul.. another Tynesider? I thought I was the only one up here!

Subject: Launch

Posted by Rocky
Wednesday, September 27, 2000 at 23:56:18

I watched the launch of the British Admiral. I didn't run aground, they dug out a big lump of Walney opposite the slipway for it to launch into. It only just made it though.


Posted by Alan T
Wednesday, September 27, 2000 at 19:43:17

Lateral thinking Paul? Are you kidding?I spent time at Govan Shipbuilders a few years ago, and they'd had a problem with a launch themselves. Basically, they hadn't added enough drag to the ship, so it hit the grain terminal opposite and bent its rudder post, resulting in a visit to the dry-dock. Shipwrights?

Subject: Launches

Posted by paul
Wednesday, September 27, 2000 at 18:26:17

Here on the Tyne, they launch big boats sideways (well - used to when they built them), to stop them running aground on the opposite bank. Maybe this sort of lateral thinking escapes Vickers.

Subject: Launches

Posted by PFW
Wednesday, September 27, 2000 at 14:34:25

I've seen quite a few... I recall one sub launch where there was a problem with a sprung hatch?

Subject: Launch

Posted by Alan T
Tuesday, September 26, 2000 at 19:57:16

I can vaguely remember watching British Admiral being launched as a four or five year-old. Don't recall it sticking in the mud, but I nearly fell off the bridge with the excitment of it all. I can't say I'll be quite as excited as that on Thursday, but I'll be on Walney to watch it, weather permitting.


Posted by IT
Tuesday, September 26, 2000 at 17:11:09

I have a vague memory (childhood, I think) of the launch of the British Admiral which was supposedly the world's largest oil tanker. It ran aground on Walney, and everyone said that it spelt the end of the tanker business for Vickers. How does this one compare?

Subject: Launch

Posted by Ciaran
Tuesday, September 26, 2000 at 13:23:20

Phil, you'll find links to the launch on link isn't live yet but they promise us it will work.Our wonderful company is actually giving us all 2 hours off to watch the launch so if anyone's in town and fancies an early pint, don't go to the crows nest or the dev as they'll probably be full at 11 o'clock!!.I'm sure it will get down the slipway but whether it comes to rest on the other side of the channel remains to be seen!!

Subject: The Launch

Posted by PFW
Tuesday, September 26, 2000 at 10:29:10

The Launch of which I speak IT?Why the big mother of a ship now sitting on the slips.. a fleet support ship (AFAIK) Waveknight? KnightRider? In contrast to the last few vessels this thing will slide down into the channel as in days of old. I wouldn't mind seeing a launch again.. but don't fancy the long trek to the end of the peninsula.


Posted by IT
Tuesday, September 26, 2000 at 10:24:22

What launch is that, of which you speak?

Subject: the Launch

Posted by PFW
Tuesday, September 26, 2000 at 09:16:23

I gather the impending launch will be broadcast live on the Net.. anyone know the URL?
Its been a while since a launch.. are there enough naval architects left with the experience to do the calculations? Could be interesting.

Subject: cross dressing

Posted by Ern
Thursday, September 21, 2000 at 09:11:38

Sorry to shatter your illusions Paul, but if I looked like that, I'd grow a beard! Oh!, I have!

Subject: My Arrows of Desire...

Posted by Paul
Wednesday, September 20, 2000 at 21:55:26

That's no comely wench, - it's obviosly Ern in drag.

Subject: Pagan Ceremony

Posted by PFW
Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 15:55:05

However.. I will overlook this abuse to point out that the band were excellent! Even when faced with a crowd of folk who could never wander too far from life support machines. Music fans are encouraged to obtain the corresponding Whole Hog CD.. much more enjoyable than the Magic Cake Shop

Subject: Bring me my bow of burning gold

Posted by PW
Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 09:48:32

What an outrageous slur on my archery skills .. The little Mongolian chap was in fear of his eyesight. It was only his persistent dodging that saved him from certain death. If only we carried out all conflicts this way we could save millions on Trident and the large inherent delays would provide opportunities for diplomacy!

Subject: The Comely Wench

Posted by Ern
Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 09:31:35

The photo was taken at a kind of mega village fete that Phil came to in Somerset for the dubious pleasure of witnessing the spectacle of me performing live with my rock'n'roll band - you know the sort of thing - about 300,000 less people than Eavis's do, two or three p**s*d locals studiously avoiding the dancefloor and a quick 200 in yer back pocket.The comely wench was rather peeved with Phil, as she instructed him to shoot at the right hand live target (yes, there were two loonies acting as targets!)and Phil kept aiming for the other one just because he didn't like the cut of his jib!It's fair to say that the British archery team don't need to fear competition from Phil - he would have difficulty shooting a fish in a bucket!


Posted by Ian T
Tuesday, September 19, 2000 at 09:02:38

Alan,I'll try to dig out the article and get it scanned. You may have to wait a while, because today is the first day of the new term and things are going to be hectic for the next couple of weeks.Best,Ian.

Subject: Archery

Posted by Alan Tomlinson
Monday, September 18, 2000 at 21:58:28

Could IT please post a copy of his article on the message board please?Who is the comely wench in the pic webmaster? Is that plaid draped on your shoulder or a carelessly folded Harrington jacket from Henry's/Stone Dri?

Subject: IT

Posted by W
Monday, September 18, 2000 at 17:32:31

A book and an article in The Independent... this is prolific.

Subject: Barrow knockers

Posted by IT
Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 18:08:14

About ten years ago the Independent had an occasional feature on its travel page about towns which had a poor image but were really worth a visit. I was a bit fed up with being a landscape architect at the time, and hankered after a new career in journalism, so I wrote a piece about Barrow, mentioning all the good things, like the Abbey, the Town Hall, Roa Island etc. I'm pleased to say that they published it. They even sent a photographer to get a picture of the submarine shed and the sun glinting off the channel mudflats. But even the Indie couldn't resist a dig - the headline was 'Pushing Barrow Up Market'

Subject: archery

Posted by william tell
Sunday, September 17, 2000 at 17:08:37

So that's how they deal with QAA visits in Sheffield.

Subject:Hunting the Snark

Posted by Ern
Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 12:18:51

The 'real' webmeister relaxing at the weekend!

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